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		<title>Public Option Will Complement, Not Compete</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do we want insurance or medical treatment for what ails us?&#160; Insurance is only a means to an end.&#160; Health care is what we want.
As the debacle of AIG, the world&#8217;s largest insurance company (until last fall), so graphically illustrated &#8212; insurance companies are big evil blood-sucking vampires.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do we want insurance or medical treatment for what ails us?&nbsp; Insurance is only a means to an end.&nbsp; Health care is what we want.</p>
<p>As the debacle of AIG, the world&#8217;s largest insurance company (until last fall), so graphically illustrated &#8212; <a href="http://www.americablog.com/2009/06/spitzer-may-have-been-on-to-something.html">insurance companies are big evil blood-sucking vampires</a>.</p>
<p>No, really. I&#8217;m sure I saw that somewhere.&nbsp; </p>
<p>They place bets on the likelihood of us encountering misfortune and like any bookie takes it&#8217;s cut whether we win or lose.&nbsp; They&#8217;ve made so much money on our suffering, and often denying us the coverage we thought we paid for, they can afford to buy themselves a Congress.</p>
<p>Enough.&nbsp; </p>
<p>The original idea of insurance was to spread the cost of tragedy over as many people as possible so whatever harm befalls one of us can be mitigated by spreading the hurt so far and wide that it&#8217;s barely noticeable to society at large &#8212; and society benefits by bringing an otherwise productive member who no longer can contribute back to wellness and helping us all move forward.</p>
<p>Our entire tort system is based in large part on this idea, spreading the cost associated with calamity, reducing the risk of doing business far and wide because we are more than the sum of our parts.&nbsp; We&#8217;re better together than apart.&nbsp; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respondeat_superior"><i>Respondeat Superior</i></a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agency_%28law%29">agency</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicarious_liability" title="Vicarious liability">vicarious liability</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_liability" title="Product liability">product liability</a>, and the very concept of a corporation are all legal doctrines ingrained in our law that express this idea &#8212; that we cannot as a society rely on the law of the jungle and be considered civilized.&nbsp; Risk must be spread so no one person alone bears the full weight of failure and injury lest nothing be done for fear of unbearable consequences.</p>
<p>Specifically, when it comes to health care, it&#8217;s bad enough that the cost of medicine and medical procedures have gone through the roof, but to tolerate the vampires who feed off the system and give nothing of value back is unacceptable.&nbsp; Having a public option will do more to keep them honest than any regulation.&nbsp; Those that can&#8217;t compete were cheating anyway.&nbsp; They were running a care denial company and not acting as a health care provider should.</p>
<p>Doctors should be paid, and paid well.&nbsp; Nurses and technical staff too.&nbsp; When looking at the system with an eye towards what benefits society, we all are better off if the best and the brightest find it financially and emotionally attractive to enter the medical field if so inclined.&nbsp; I want the best people there and you get what you pay for.&nbsp; I want state of the art advanced facilities and equipment which ought to cost a lot too.&nbsp; And I want everyone to have access to all that.</p>
<p>So you spread the cost.&nbsp; All of us spend some so that we can all enjoy the benefits of a wellness system of the highest caliber.&nbsp; If your Congressional Representative balks at the very idea that a publicly funded health care provider is unacceptable for some sort of ideological reason, you have the right to wonder what is wrong with the government run health plan they use.</p>
<p>I have to admit, the long debate over what form our health system revolution should take over the last couple of years has dented my resolve that single payer is the only way to go and/or a public plan is at least a good start towards running the private insurance companies out of business if not a complete dismantling the for-profit model.</p>
<p>The best argument, to me, for resisting socialized medicine is in the area of research and developments.&nbsp; Private enterprise simply is the fastest and often most effective route to innovation.&nbsp; Pharmaceuticals especially illustrate the greed-is-good effect, Viagra being one of the most stunning examples.&nbsp; Simultaneously it shows how market forces can advance discovery and success, and at the same time proves the market has whacked out priorities and is devoid of social conscience.&nbsp; If there were a market for an AIDS cure as lucrative as that for male-pattern baldness, HIV would be a memory.</p>
<p>So there&#8217;s good and bad in the market-based approach to medical R&amp;D. The market indeed works, and works well.&nbsp; Yet it doesn&#8217;t necessarily work for the greatest good.&nbsp; There is no &#8220;invisible hand&#8221; when it comes to our well being.</p>
<p>So, which way to go?&nbsp; Should we scrap the whole for-profit system or at least pour our energies into creating a competing public system designed to eventually destroy private health insurance &#8212; or accept at face value that a public system really is a benign competitor filling a societal need and not something more sinister.</p>
<p>We already have an example of a system that uses public institutions and private enterprises that both compete and complement each other in a uniquely American way.&nbsp; Bumbling and stumbling but always chugging forward &#8212; Education.&nbsp; America higher education exploits both a&nbsp; market-driven environment and public finance in the form of assistance to students in private and public institutions, as well as universities that are wholly manufactured creatures of government.&nbsp; </p>
<p>Which would you get rid of?&nbsp; Would you rather have only Harvards and Yales or do away with those hoity-toity schools in favor of funding Ohio State or Michigan University?&nbsp; Of course we do neither and accept that the Ivy League Schools are the envy of the world &#8212; but cannot boast anywhere near the volume of citizens who recieve excellent educations at State run universities throughout the land &#8212; most of whom rooted for way better football teams than the Ivy League had in over a century.&nbsp; </p>
<p>The Big Ten pretty much doomed decent football in the Ivy League (apologies to Doug Flutie and Fran Tarkenton), but these public universities, big as they are, in no way threatened to undermine the existence of the private colleges who still keep going despite costing double, triple or more than their public counterparts.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t knock the football factories, which not only pay for all the other athletic programs but earn a lot of their graduates millions as pros &#8212; the only measure so many conservatives who deplore public anything recognize as the meaning of success.&nbsp; Next time a Republican insists that anything the government runs turns to crap, ask him or her which NBA team drafted the starting point guard from Princeton.&nbsp; </p>
<p>It is relevant if making cash is what counts.&nbsp; If it&#8217;s about educating as many people as possible to make the country more productive, where would we be if we relied solely on private colleges?&nbsp; Not the leader of the free world, that&#8217;s for certain, since the vast majority of our population would be embarrassingly undereducated.</p>
<p>We spread the benefits of a world class American education far and wide through both public and private systems which both fill complementary instead of competing market and social needs.&nbsp; They work side by side and I wouldn&#8217;t eliminate either.&nbsp; Having both a public and private educational system spreads knowledge and wealth.&nbsp; Now it&#8217;s time to spread the health.</p>
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		<title>The Eyes Roll Back And The Sea Goes Red</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><span style="underline;"><big><strong>JUMP!</strong></big></span></div>
<p>Shark reference brought to you by the cloistered <a href="http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/06/11/the-dream-team/">Ladies of Perpetual Outrage</a> and <a href="http://www.newshounds.us/2009/05/03/oreilly_factor_class_act_feminist_feldt_meets_frothing_at_the_mouth_ingraham.php">Publicity Hounds</a>. (Yes, that was a dog metaphor. Sue me. <a href="http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7015473291">How appropriate</a> G.H.W Bush - 41 - is jumping out of a perfectly good airplane again today.)</p>
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<p>I guess there aren&#8217;t any important issues to discuss, slow news week and all.  Best to dive head on into the <a href="http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/political-media/sarah-palins-politics-of-grievance-are-back/">Politics of Grievance</a> the tabloid media prefers.  <a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/%7Er/matthewyglesias/%7E3/ROiMhB3LCEE/von-brunn-and-the-gop.php">Von Brunn would approve.</a> We can talk about North Korean Nukes and hostage journalists, Iranian elections shaping the Middle East for the next decade, health care, the rise of right-wing violence, the economy or those two pesky wars when we don&#8217;t have Sarah Palin&#8217;s hurt feelings to console.</p>
<p>Maybe I should take heart, that this is merely part of the death rattle of the conservative movement.  But <a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/06/12/self_absorption/index.html">better minds than mine</a> are still trying to grip with the right wing mentality &#8212; and the examination of the <a href="http://karws.gso.uri.edu/jfk/conspiracy_theory/the_paranoid_mentality/the_paranoid_style.html">Paranoid Style of American Politics</a> has been going on for a long time with no satisfactory answers or effective strategy to bury it.  This description of the phenomenon from 1964 applies to rages against the Illuminati as well as rants against the fictional Liberal Fascist ghosts: (H/T <a href="http://twitter.com/jayrosen_nyu/statuses/2126513470">Jay Rosen</a>)</p>
<blockquote><p><em>America has been largely taken away from them and their kind, though they are determined to try to repossess it and to prevent the final destructive act of subversion. The old American virtues have already been eaten away by cosmopolitans and intellectuals; the old competitive capitalism has been gradually undermined by socialistic and communistic schemers; the old national security and independence have been destroyed by treasonous plots, having as their most powerful agents not merely outsiders and foreigners as of old but major statesmen who are at the very centers of American power. Their predecessors had discovered conspiracies; the modern radical right finds conspiracy to be betrayal from on high.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>P.S. <a href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_06/018588.php">Hey Steve</a>. Palin should stay &#8220;above the fray?&#8221; You&#8217;re hilarious dude. How would she get any airtime that way?</p>
<p><a href="http://original.antiwar.com/updates/2009/06/12/friday-11-iraqis-killed-23-wounded/">Today&#8217;s toll</a>: 11 Iraqis Killed, 23 Wounded</p>
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		<title>Ya Know What Reagan Did Not Do</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wax delusional about some Reaganite of the past.  [Or plagiarize, updated below.]
Ronald Reagan did not look back at some successful conservative politician of a by-gone generation as somehow bestowed with a kind of divinely inspired wisdom whose every platitude was gospel and approach to every policy to be followed to the letter.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wax delusional about some Reaganite of the past.  [Or plagiarize, updated below.]</p>
<p>Ronald Reagan did not look back at some successful conservative politician of a by-gone generation as somehow bestowed with a kind of divinely inspired wisdom whose every platitude was gospel and approach to every policy to be followed to the letter.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t recommend reading <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/akmuckraker/screw-political-correctne_b_211635.html">AKMuckraker&#8217;s account</a> of a recent speech by Sarah Palin, except for the schadenfreude humor content of his running commentary.  If you dig too deep into the word salad only the Ninny from Wassily can deliver and actually try to understand what the hell she&#8217;s talking about, it&#8217;s clear her message can be boiled down to one thought bubble: Ronald Reagan was right and we need to go back and do everything he told us to do.</p>
<p>Mind you, it should come as no surprise I&#8217;m no fan of our 40th President and never was.  But I never remember him revolving his entire political philosophy around some previous prince of conservative thought &#8212; let alone completely miss the boat when it came to understanding and applying history&#8217;s lessons.  At least he had the good sense examine the world honestly and try to make it better (as he saw it) without applying a three decade&#8217;s old doctrine to contemporary problems.  The man certainly was an original.</p>
<p>His imitators make themselves look so very small by their constant comparisons &#8212; incapable of original thought.</p>
<p>Between Reagan and the two Bush boys we&#8217;ve had Reaganite conservatism running the Executive Branch for 20 out of the last 28 years, and Clinton only had two years to screw up their right wing paradise until Newt Gingrich took over Congress and stopped any chance of liberal reform dead in it&#8217;s tracks.  So dammit &#8230; where&#8217;s my perfect supply-side utopia?</p>
<p>Oh, that&#8217;s right.  We&#8217;re living it &#8230; never mind.</p>
<p>Honestly, go back?  Sarah Palin wants us to go back to Reganism?  When did we ever leave it?  Obama&#8217;s done a lot in the last 4 months, but a complete roll back of Reaganism will take a bit more time.  Do these cookie-cutter conservatives really miss the Cold War so much?</p>
<p>Over grown military budgets &#8230; Check.  Out of control deficit spending &#8230; Check.  Unrestrained government bloat with a side dish of cronyism, incompetence and bureaucratic stagnation &#8230; Check.  Concentration of executive power at the expense of States rights and civil liberties &#8230; Check.  Shoot first and never answer any questions later foreign policy &#8230; Check.  Hell, Clinton did the right&#8217;s dirty work on welfare reform.</p>
<p>Go back?  Ronnie, we hardly missed you.  These were the realities of Reagan&#8217;s rule, despite his rhetoric to the contrary.  Governor Palin, however, in her own unusual lexicon, remembers it differently some how.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Reagan knew that real change and real change requiring shaking things<br />
up and maybe takin&#8217; off the entrenched interest thwarting the will of<br />
the people with their ignoring of our concerns about future peril<br />
caused by selfish short-sighted advocacy for growing government and<br />
digging more debt, and taking away individual and state&#8217;s rights and<br />
hampering opportunity to responsibly develop our resources, and<br />
coddling those who would seek to harm America and her allies.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>She knows nothing, nothing &#8212; absolutely nothing of what Reagan wrought.  I think.  You can&#8217;t be too sure what the hell she means most of the time.  One can only conclude she hasn&#8217;t much of a clue either.  Does she really think Reagan was some kind of a deficit hawk?  Hell, not even <a href="http://www.ontheissues.org/2004/Dick_Cheney_Budget_+_Economy.htm">Dick Cheney</a> was so deluded, merely concluding that &#8220;<em>Reagan proved deficits don&#8217;t matter</em>.&#8221;  The Bushes piled on more debt to Reagan&#8217;s record spending.  Clinton was the only one since who tried to get a handle on the budget, and left office with a surplus.</p>
<p>Reagan talked tough, but he also talked to our enemies.  He got a lot more out of Gorbechev from private meetings between respectful equals than he ever did calling the Soviets names.  The &#8220;Evil Empire&#8221; shtick was strictly for domestic consumption to win the hearts and minds of supporters who really thought he was John Wayne, and thought John Wayne was for real.</p>
<p>Iran?  Obama is getting considerable push-back for daring to think we should talk to Iran. But Reagan not only talked to them, he sent Ollie North over there with plane loads full of weapons &#8212; to trade, not to fire.  If a Democrat tried that, I think they&#8217;d call it more than &#8220;coddling.&#8221;</p>
<p>The only thing Palin gets remotely right, no doubt quite by accident, is Reagan&#8217;s hostility to environmentalism.  Palin is a kindred spirit with the millenialist bigot Ronnie put in charge of the interior, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_G._Watt#Secretary_of_Interior">James Watt</a>.  He too wanted to sell off all undeveloped public lands to the highest bidder for gas and oil drilling, but in these modern times I&#8217;ll bet she&#8217;d opt for a no bid contract if they threw in a nice pair of shoes.</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE: </strong><br />
Seems that Sarah Palin is so devoid of original thought, <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/geoffrey-dunn/palin-plagiarizes-gingric_b_212228.html">she stole most of this speech</a> from Newt Gingrich.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Sarah Palin&#8217;s garbled, often incoherent speech delivered in Anchorage on Wednesday&#8211;the one in which she declared &#8220;screw political correctness&#8221; and wondered why &#8220;we have to pussyfoot around our troublesome foes&#8221;&#8211;was largely lifted from an article written four years ago by Newt Gingrich and Craig Shirley.</em></p>
<p><em>Palin apparently also felt that she could &#8220;screw&#8221; intellectual integrity.</em></p>
<p><em>While Palin twice mentioned Gingrich in the speech (she never once acknowledged Shirley), virtually every single reference she made to Reagan was lifted directly from the Gingrich-Shirley article. It&#8217;s a pure case of unadulterated plagiarism.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Gah! Teh Stoopit! It Buurrrnnnnnsssssss.</p>
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		<title>Roeder-Muhammad: The Difference</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The SOURCE of Roeder and Muhammad's radicalization are as far removed as possible.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/06/when-shes-right-.html">Sully</a> agrees (grudgingly to be sure) with <a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jun/04/murder-by-any-means/">Malkin</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Dr. Tiller&#8217;s suspected murderer, Scott Roeder, is white, Christian,<br />
anti-government and anti-abortion. The gunman in the<br />
military-recruitment-center attack, Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, is<br />
black, a Muslim convert, anti-military and anti-American. Both crimes<br />
are despicable, cowardly acts of domestic terrorism. But the disparate<br />
treatment of the two brutal cases by the White House and the media is<br />
striking.</p></blockquote>
<p>There are obvious differences, and profound similarities.  None fairly explain let alone excuse the difference in attention &#8212; which of course adds fodder to the victimization card the Malkinites of the world love to play first and foremost: liberal media bias.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s really something more visceral at play here to my way of thinking.  The SOURCE of Roeder and Muhammad&#8217;s radicalization are as far removed as possible.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s dog-bites man when a Muslim black man radicalized in Yemen hates America.  Quite another when the victim&#8217;s job description does not comtemplate him being in the line of fire like a soldier, and the shooting is in Church not a military recruiting center &#8212; that&#8217;s shocking enough.  Add to that the shooter belongs to the majority religion, not a marginalized minority; is a member of the predominate political demographic, being a white male;  and the cognative dissonence of trying to save lives by taking them as Roeder no doubt would argue, as opposed to Muhammad simply being on a killing spree.</p>
<p>As foreign as Muhammad may seem to so many in the heartland, we &#8220;get&#8221; him.  He&#8217;s pissed at us and he has his reasons, no matter how warped.  Roeder on the other hand could be a neighbor and we&#8217;d never suspect he was dangerous, and the reasons for what he did leave us shaking our heads and arguing amongst ourselves.</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s not bias or anything sinister, just human nature why the two incidents are treated differently.  In so many basic, gut level ways they couldn&#8217;t be more dissimilar.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s one thing to be outmaneuvered and lose power and influence, even daily.  Quite another to face ruin and irrelevance.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s one thing to be outmaneuvered and lose power and influence, even daily.  Quite another to face ruin and irrelevance.</p>
<p>The last time an American political party disintegrated so dramatically, falling from the pinnacle of holding the presidency and a congressional majority to near obscurity was when the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whig_Party_%28United_States%29#Death_throes.2C_1852.E2.80.931856">Whigs</a> disintegrated in the wake of the Compromise of 1850.  The last Whig President, &#8220;Know-Nothing&#8221; Millard Filmore, could not retain the White House and the death-spiral was swift and dramatic, culminating in the worst Democratic President, James Buchanan, the rise of the newly formed Republican Party, the election of Abraham Lincoln, and the Civil War, all in less than a decade.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in no way predicting that we are on the road to ruin, <a href="http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/33543/americans_back_obamaaas_economic_management">quite the contrary</a>.  However, the political evolution this nation is currently undergoing could be as dramatic when historians look back, and the demise of the Republican Party may be seen as a symptom of social upheaval as their emergence likewise reflected turbulent times.</p>
<p>Instinctively, they know they&#8217;re in trouble.&nbsp; As an organization they have been devastated by their <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,504664,00.html">continued</a> lack of coherent leadership which a party known for <a href="http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20070905.html">lock-step, top-down management</a> cannot endure.&nbsp; Not surprising that when every day President Obama&#8217;s cool demeanor and rational approach to the problems the GOP has left us makes them look worse and worse each and every day &#8212; they lash out.&nbsp; Yesterday&#8217;s stunt <a href="http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/intel-firestorm-gop-reveals-briefing-info-2009-06-04.html">blabbing about a classified intelligence briefing</a> is no exception.<br /> <br />
<blockquote><i>Republicans ignited a firestorm of controversy on Thursday by revealing some of what they had been told at a closed-door Intelligence Committee hearing on the interrogation of terrorism suspects.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>This from the chest-thumping, flag-pin obsessive, oh-so-patriotic Republicans simply desperate for anything that looks like a win.&nbsp; Their party and their own hides once again trumping any notions of national security or the rule of law, this was at best stupid and at worse, treason.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the dangerous irony.&nbsp; These administration critics have claimed that the Obama Justice Department releasing memos authorizing torture techniques that by and large did not seem to work has made us less safe because our enemies can now train to techniques the Bush administration quit using years ago.&nbsp; But what they and former VP Cheney want the public to know are techniques that they allege DID work.<br />
<blockquote><a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2218762/">Cheney said</a>. Yet, this authority would have little use because, thanks to the release of the documents, &#8220;<i>the enemy now knows exactly what interrogation methods to train against</i>.&#8221;&nbsp; </p></blockquote>
<p>Good luck to &#8216;em Dick, since we don&#8217;t use these any more, and won&#8217;t and they weren&#8217;t particularly effective from what we know so far.&nbsp; What Cheney wants exposed are the methods he claims did work.&nbsp; <i>That</i> would be useful information for our enemies.</p>
<p>Why, Dick? Why? Will the world knowing what we learned through the torture program prevent future attacks?&nbsp; No.&nbsp; If we developed a silver bullet means of fool-proof information extraction through these methods, is it really a good idea for anyone to know we have such capability?&nbsp; No, no, not at all.&nbsp; </p>
<p><a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v145/DispLib/?action=view&amp;current=Germans_surrendering.jpg" target="_blank"><img style="10px;" src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/DispLib/Germans_surrendering.jpg" alt="Photobucket" border="0" width="283" height="212" /></a>Wouldn&#8217;t it be better for captives on a battlefield to give up voluntarily like they did in droves during the first Gulf War, believing they will receive humane treatment at our hands instead of bringing down as many of our soldiers as they can in a futile last stand rather than be treated like animals?&nbsp; But no.&nbsp; Typically myopic, these petty Republican zealots are wholly unable to appreciate the big picture when it is at odds with their own self-serving interests.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve no sympathy for the remaining Republicans right now, and in the long run their antics are more an annoyance than true danger to the republic.&nbsp; If they want to win these arguments, let them get organized, offer some solutions instead of tired slogans, and win some elections.&nbsp; Then they can declassify anything they want &#8212; just like Cheney and his pals selectively released self-serving intelligence over the last eight years, including <a href="http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060918/corn">burning</a> an under-cover operative and her entire non-proliferation operation.&nbsp; </p>
<p>He had his chance to &#8220;prove&#8221; torture worked.&nbsp; Dick Cheney, his daughter Liz, and all their dead-end supporters can tell their stories to a jury, because the world neither needs nor wants to know their version of revisionist history.</p>
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		<title>Shorter Yglesias</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 12:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don't really care what complicated schemes you come up with to pass health care, as long as you <i>Git 'er Done.</i>]]></description>
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<div>::&#8230;Don&#8217;t really care what complicated schemes you come up with to pass health care, as long as you <a href="http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/05/raising-revenue-through-taxing-employer-provided-health-care.php">Git Er Done</a>&#8230;.::</p>
<p>[All due appreciation to the guys who are always credited by the guys at <a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/%7Er/SadlyNo/%7E3/na8son6xQtE/21324.html">Sadly No!</a> for the whole "Shorter" concept, being aware of all internet traditions and such ... and that Cable Guy too.]</p>
<p>If you have to dumb things &#8220;up&#8221; for the peanut brains on the right that still insist tax-cuts are always the answer, just so it looks too weird for the easily bamboozled to understand, so be it.  They know single payer is the only thing that really works, even though it&#8217;s too French for their taste.</p>
<p>Dress it down, mix it up, pull it and squeeze it from five different sides.  Just do some fucking thing and we can all tell you why it won&#8217;t work and why single-payer is the only thing that will.  One way or another you got to get rid of the profit motive or by definition, someone is going to get ripped off, which will create some other bunch of fuckers who will become too big too fail through this windfall.</p></div>
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		<title>Death Rattle Of The Cult Of Intelligence?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 14:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dick Cheney represents the pinnacle of the sputtering rise of the power of our clandestine services.  He&#8217;s a true believer, an apostle and archbishop of what  <a title="Victor Marchetti" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Marchetti">Victor Marchetti</a> dubbed <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_CIA_and_the_Cult_of_Intelligence">The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence</a>, the title of his heavily redacted 1974 book, the first book ever subject to pre-publication censorship by the US government.  A book that was a required text book in one of my political science classes in the early 80&#8217;s (and available to read <a href="http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&amp;d=77686898">online at questia.com</a> registration required). There are still deleted passages, and in some cases entire pages, although some of previous redactions I saw 25 years ago have been restored as new material is declassified.</p>
<blockquote><p>The  CIA can start wars, it can start revolu­tions, it can give millions of dollars away with­out the American people and their elected officials knowing a thing about it. The  CIA is doing all these things &#8212; and much, much more.</p></blockquote>
<p>This book was written before Iran/Contra, before we missed 19 nutjobs using airliners as missiles, and before WMD&#8217;s in Iraq were a &#8220;slam dunk.&#8221; However, it&#8217;s lessons are as fresh as today&#8217;s headlines.</p>
<blockquote><p>In the eyes of posterity it will inevitably seem that, in safeguarding our freedom, we destroyed it; that the vast clandestine apparatus we built up to probe our enemies&#8217; resources and intentions only served in the end to confuse our own purposes; that the practice of deceiving others for the good of the state led infallibly to our deceiving ourselves; and that the vast army of intelligence personnel built up to execute these purposes were soon caught up in the web of their own sick fantasies, with disastrous conse­quences to them and us.</p></blockquote>
<p>Having a clandestine service is absolutely, without question an essential component of our national security requirements. By it&#8217;s nature, it impossible for such an organization to retain transparent accountability usually associated with bureaucratic agencies in the traditional sense.  And therein lies the rub.  They get away with murder because that&#8217;s what they are trained to do.  It&#8217;s their reason for existing.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;It is a multi-purpose, clandestine arm of power&#8230;more than an intelligence or counterintelligence organization. It is an instrument for subversion, manipulation, and violence, for the secret intervention in the affairs of other countries.&#8221;</p>
<p>Allen Dulles wrote those words about the  KGB in  1963 so that Americans would better understand the nature of the Soviet security service. His description was a correct one, but he could &#8212; just as accurately &#8212; have used the same terms to describe his own  CIA. He did not, of course, be­cause the  U.S. leaders of  Dulles&#8217; generation generally tried to impute the worst possible methods and motives to the forces of international communism, while casting the &#8220;defensive actions of the free world&#8221; as honest and democratic.</p>
<p>Both sides, however, resorted to ruthless tactics. Neither was reluctant to employ trickery, deceit, or, in  Dulles&#8217; phrase, &#8220;subversion, manipulation, and violence.&#8221; They both operated clandestinely, concealing their activities not so much from the &#8220;opposition&#8221; (they couldn&#8217;t) as from their own peoples. Secrecy itself became a way of life, and it could not be challenged without fear of a charge that one was unpatriotic or unmindful of the &#8220;national security.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Sound familiar?</p>
<p>They got their director, George H.W. Bush, elected Vice President and then President.  They got his son elected President.  They&#8217;ve switched enemies from Soviet Communism to Islamic Terrorism without pause, declaring war against a metaphor, a tactic, against which their paranoia knows no bounds.</p>
<p>There are few cold-warriors who survived the disgrace of the Nixon administration, the purges of the Church Commission or the exposure of Iran/Contra.  Two such survivors stand out.  Their names are Donald Rumsfeld and Richard Cheney.</p>
<p>Crafty and ruthless, Rummy and Cheney have a different view of what it meas to be a patriotic American.  Their loyalty has always been to the preservation and advancement of the United States position as the absolute leader in all the world, even at the expense of those quaint parchment documents preserved at the National Archives.</p>
<p>I understand and appreciate their position, but I and so many of my liberal ilk have loftier ambitions than raw power and military might as evidence of our position in the world.  Not only are we a nation of laws, where the &#8220;rule of law&#8221; takes precedence, but a society based on ideas and ideals.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re not just dreamers, naive ideologues ungrounded in the practicality of the real world.  We believe that to truly be an American patriot, you have to have faith in the ideas and honor the ideals that puts justice and honor above simple expedience.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re better than that because of what we do, not who we are, because what we do and what we allow to be done in our names defines who we are.  We&#8217;re better than that paranoid old man shouting at clouds we witnessed speaking at his wife&#8217;s think tank Thursday; a man whose paranoid obsession with secrecy, faith in the manipulation and power of intelligence, and reliance on the nobility of his ends justifying any and all means required, legal or not, embodies the Cult of Intelligence that has dominated our national security apparatus your entire life.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t count them out, ever.  In one form or another they will be back, even as one of their Grand Poobahs, Dick Cheney, retires to ignominious obscurity and disgrace.</p>
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		<title>Scarborough Loses Argument With Himself</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 18:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It took maybe 25 seconds for Joe Scarborough to completely contradict himself on what kind of machinations the CIA is capable of this morning, all as <a href="http://www.talkleft.com/story/2009/5/15/84825/2237">MSNBC&#8217;s answer to Alan Colmes</a> vapidly stared, mouth agape, offering platitudes and meek objections until finally stammering agreement with Joe&#8217;s final statement of utter nonsense.</p>
<p>Media Matters has the video and with regards to whether the CIA selectively leaks classified information, they simply ask: <a href="http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200905200010">Which is it, Joe? Do they or don&#8217;t they?</a> [Elapsed time 1:11]</p>
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<p>Here&#8217;s my quick transcript:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>JOE:</strong> <em>Well, uh, anyway. In 2002 they would have been irresponsible if they hadn&#8217;t asked that question</em> [re: Iraq connection to 9/11] <em>along with a thousand other questions, which they did. But to say that, that was the purpose. No. The purpose was after 9/11 figuring al-Qaeda out.</em></p>
<p><em>And to a bigger point. A lot of people in the CIA thought George Bush politicized them. <strong>Did you see what they did to George Bush over five years? They&#8217;d leak this document. They&#8217;d leak that document. And they bled him dry.</strong> You do not politicize the CIA. Bush learned it. And Nancy Pelosi&#8217;s learning it now.</em></p>
<p><strong>MIKA:</strong> <em>I do so think that the work of these people and&#8230;in the wake of 9/11 should be respected, and even honored in some ways. But I will say for balance and not for argument that the CIA is not above question and rebuke.</em></p>
<p><strong>HAROLD FORD, Jr.:</strong> <em>I would agree with that.</em></p>
<p><strong>JOE:</strong> <em>Well sure. We all agree with that. Sadly though, all of the attacks&#8230;</em></p>
<p><strong>MIKA:</strong> <em>9/11 happened&#8230;on&#8230;</em></p>
<p><strong>JOE:</strong> <em>All of the attacks have come from the left in this debate. Because guess what? <strong>CIA agents are patriotic. They don&#8217;t leak classified information, but their enemies do.</strong></em></p>
<p><strong>MIKA:</strong> <em>I&#8217;m with you. </em></p></blockquote>
<p>Astonishing what it must be like to live inside Joe&#8217;s head, effortlessly filling three hours of the &#8220;liberal&#8221; cable news network with such wisdom day after day &#8212; and then play on ABC radio for a couple of hours too, all while Twittering.</p>
<p>What a douche.</p>
<p>I take it when Joe says only the CIA&#8217;s enemies leak classified info, he includes Scooter Libby, Karl Rove and Dick Cheney on that list for when they burned Valerie Plame.</p>
<p>One question remains.  Why is Mika Brezinski there at all when Joe can argue with himself for hours?</p>
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		<title>Kwick Hits</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 18:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another difference between Obama &#038; Bush: When Barack tries to be funny, he is. ]]></description>
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<li>Serious Villagers getting paid serious money 4 serious political discourse &#8230;<a href="http://is.gd/AaQO">Seriously</a>.</li>
<li>Does Newt realize he agrees w/Pelosi, calling for an inquiry, as he blasts her for being (heh) a <a href="http://is.gd/Ab3I">partisan hack</a>?</li>
<li><a href="http://is.gd/Abyg">Shocked again</a>, even more shocked that the CIA would ever lie to Congress &#8212; and not get caught.</li>
<li><a href="http://is.gd/AbfD">Not-stradamus</a>: Palin-Prejean link-up = &#8220;The slayer of beasts shall meet the barer of breasts.&#8221;</li>
<li><a href="http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2009/5/14/182148/874">Reminder</a>: &#8220;<em>Enhanced Interrogation Techniques</em>&#8221; was originally a term <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;address=389x5660134">coined by the <em>Gestapo</em></a>.</li>
<li><span class="status-body"><span class="entry-content"><strong>Blood</strong>. That&#8217;s the difference in the new torture pictures we aren&#8217;t allowed to (<a href="http://is.gd/zYRq">but can</a>) see. </span></span></li>
<li><span class="status-body"><span class="entry-content">Another difference between Obama &amp; Bush: When Barack tries to be funny, <a href="http://is.gd/zYHm">he is</a>. </span></span></li>
<li><span class="status-body"><span class="entry-content"><a href="http://is.gd/zWqQ">Somerby</a> on Turley re-Obama torture pix: &#8220;If pundits don&#8217;t like some decision or other, the motive must be hidden&#8211;bad.&#8221;</span></span></li>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which is it?&nbsp; Come on all you lurking conservatives out there, which of these two mutually exclusive ideas you simultaneously hold in your head do you really believe?
<ul>
<li>Nancy Pelosi cravenly acquiesced to the worst kinds of illegal interrogation techniques &#8230; ie. she was okay with torture &#8212; so she&#8217;s going down if Bush does, or</li>
<li>Anyone criticizing our brave men and women in the CIA (Durin&#8217; Wah Time!) is a partisan hack looking for cheap political points and really are just <a href="http://the-osterley-times.blogspot.com/2009/05/fleischer-you-just-want-to-go-after.html">Jonesin&#8217; for Bush</a> in an orange jump-suit (and hates America).</li>
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<p>Got it?&nbsp; She either hates (and hated) America by tying the CIA&#8217;s hands, or is a criminal &#8230; a minor unindicted co-conspirator in the Bush Crime Family&#8217;s torture regime.&nbsp; </p>
<p>Color me confused.&nbsp; Nancy&#8217;s going down for being complicit in things they insist are not criminal?&nbsp; How do they live with the cognitive dissonance?&nbsp; My attitude is that &#8220;I&#8217;m Shocked! Shocked I tell you&#8221; that the CIA might lie to Congress.&nbsp; Good grief, they&#8217;ve been doing that my entire life.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s bait!&nbsp; And the right use it because it works, or so they think. At least it works on <a href="http://www.allthingsandersoncooper.com/2009/05/excuse-me.html">media douchebags</a>.&nbsp; They take an outrageous position simply because they believe it will outrage someone.&nbsp; The person outraged thus becomes part of the angry left meme they&#8217;ve been pushing for a half century, and gives legitimacy to their ridiculous talking point simply by refuting it.&nbsp; It&#8217;s now worth talking about, debating, a topic for discussion by &#8220;serious&#8221; Villagers. Ugh.</p>
<p>I hate <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_Window">Overton&#8217;s Window</a>, and these pricks are masters at it.&nbsp; It&#8217;s wired into their DNA.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s how partisan hacktacularness gains traction.&nbsp; Never mind we are talking about torture, war crimes identified as one of the worst atrocities a government &#8212; any government &#8212; can commit.&nbsp; They&#8217;re sitting back and <a href="http://twitter.com/PatrickRuffini/statuses/1801827017">enjoying this</a>, passing the <a href="http://conservativexpress.blogspot.com/2009/05/as-media-turns-ms-nbc-attacks-obama.html">popcorn</a> because Pelosi has to explain to a glamor enamored press corps interested only in conflict, not right or wrong, why she&#8217;s in a box framed with lies and traps.&nbsp; Damned if she lets the CIA lie about her, damned if she calls them liars because she might damage the fragile morale of thugs who get off making captives scream.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s sick.&nbsp; Jesus folks.&nbsp; One of the reasons we went after Saddam was because he was torturing his people.&nbsp; He was a despicable despot because he treated human beings like a malicious child pulling the legs off an insect.&nbsp; Get a damn clue.&nbsp; They don&#8217;t &#8220;hate us for our freedoms.&#8221;&nbsp; They hate us for the same reasons everyone hated Hussein.&nbsp; We&#8217;re doing the same crap, or at least we did.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t defend that.&nbsp; You eliminate it.&nbsp; You prosecute it.&nbsp; You PROVE that you&#8217;re better, that you deserve the reputation you think you should have.&nbsp; You don&#8217;t compromise with evil, and what we were doing to prisoners was evil &#8212; period.&nbsp; Do I have to paint you a <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/ftimages/2006/02/15/1139890768716.html">picture</a>?</p>
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<p>It becomes a show, and that&#8217;s what they&#8217;re selling on the TV, infotainment, not a serious debate or search for the truth.&nbsp; They love this scorched earth game, and that&#8217;s all it is to them &#8212; <a href="http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1018569272&amp;ref=mf#/profile.php?id=1018569272&amp;v=feed&amp;story_fbid=81802059067&amp;ref=mf">a game</a>.&nbsp; They don&#8217;t care about right or wrong, they just wanna play poke-da-lib.&nbsp; They don&#8217;t care if their arguments are relevant: &#8220;What about Clinton&#8217;s rendition?&#8221; Or logical: &#8220;Pelosi should be crucified for agreeing to Cheney&#8217;s (not really) crimes.&#8221; &nbsp; Any stick will do.&nbsp; </p>
<p>&#8220;Dance Monkey, Dance!&#8221;&nbsp; That&#8217;s what put&#8217;s coin in the hat.</p>
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